Recently, there has been a growing discussion about whether Large Language Models (LLMs) like ChatGPT or DeepSeek can be used for destiny reading. Some people believe that AI chatbots can serve as an oracle, providing astrological insights and divination. The truth, however, is both yes and no.
The Limitations of LLMs in Chinese Astrology
Chinese astrology, particularly Bazi (八字), is based on a person’s date and time of birth. The system converts this information into a set of four pillars (year, month, day, and hour), each associated with specific heavenly stems and earthly branches. The explanations of Bazi are well-documented, and LLMs excel at retrieving and presenting documented information. However, the fundamental problem is that LLMs do not inherently understand how to convert a gregorian birth date and time into Bazi pillars. As a result, their interpretations, though often well-written, are fundamentally flawed due to incorrect initial data conversion.
Solving the Bazi Conversion Problem
The key to making an AI-powered Bazi destiny-reading chatbot work correctly is solving the conversion issue. If we can properly convert a given date and time into Bazi pillars, then feeding this structured data into an LLM would yield meaningful and accurate explanations.
Building a Bazi Chatbot with n8n in 5 Minutes
To test this idea, I used n8n, a no-code/low-code workflow automation tool, to build a Bazi chatbot in just five minutes. Here’s how:
- Use a Bazi conversion API or script – This takes a given birth date and time and converts it into Bazi pillars.
- Feed the Bazi data into an LLM – Once the correct pillars are obtained, the AI can provide interpretations based on traditional texts.
- Deploy via n8n – Using n8n’s webhook and automation capabilities, I quickly set up a chatbot to take user input (birth date and time), process it through the Bazi conversion module, and then generate a meaningful response using an LLM.
Comparing LLM Responses: DeepSeek vs. Western Models
Interestingly, I noticed that different LLMs provide different responses when explaining Bazi. Western-trained models like GPT-4 and Claude tend to give more general or diluted interpretations, while DeepSeek, a Chinese-trained LLM, provides much more nuanced and culturally accurate answers. This likely stems from the fact that DeepSeek has been trained with a larger corpus of Chinese texts, including traditional astrological materials.
Final Thoughts
AI chatbots can indeed be used for destiny reading, but only if they start with accurate inputs. By addressing the Bazi conversion issue, we can create a more reliable and functional astrology chatbot. My experiment with n8n proves that setting up such a system is relatively simple, and choosing the right LLM significantly affects the quality of the output. If you’re interested in trying it yourself, all you need is a working Bazi conversion tool and a suitable LLM!
Want to try the bot out? I have also made a telegram bot @ai_sifu_bot, please let me know your findings.
AI Sifu Bot v0.1 Release Notes
Release Date: 14 March 2025
We are thrilled to introduce the BaZi Chatbot (v0.1), your personal assistant for BaZi (Four Pillars of Destiny) analysis. This initial version provides essential BaZi readings, offering users valuable insights into their destiny with ease.
Key Features:
1. Text Message Interaction
• Chat with the bot using text to receive instant BaZi calculations and insights.
2. Voice Message Support
• Speak directly to the chatbot, and it will process voice inputs for BaZi readings.
3. Automatic Conversion of Gregorian Date to BaZi Four Pillars
• Instantly converts Gregorian birth date and time into BaZi Four Pillars (Year, Month, Day, Hour).
4. Personal BaZi General Analysis
• Provides an overview of your BaZi chart, highlighting key aspects of your personality, strengths, and life path.
5. BaZi Strength and Weakness Analysis
• Identifies dominant and weak elements in your BaZi chart, helping you understand your natural tendencies and challenges.
6. Favorable Sectors Guidance
• Suggests beneficial directions and environments based on your BaZi, helping optimize living and working spaces.
Coming Soon:
• Annual Luck Reading – Personalized insights into your fortune for the year ahead.
We appreciate your feedback and look forward to enhancing the BaZi Chatbot with more features in future updates!
